stuart: i thought we went into healthcare reform to get basic costs down. it's manifestly failed to do that. it's actually raised the cost of medical care, treatment, and insurance for everybody, if i'm not mistaken. >> how can it bring the costs down? insurers if they want to stay business are going to raise premiums to compensate for the increasing cost at a time of great technology. if you want to use the technology, i think a lot of the technology is going to get squeezed out by obama care, but whatever technology remains in is expensive. so the costs get transferred on to the consumer. stuart: so it's a form of redistribution. it's redistributing the wealth basically using the healthcare system to do it. >> because you try to cover -- exactly. you try to cover everyone with a product that really not everyone can afford. stuart: all right. i want to move on to a different subject, a real good one this one. i want to give you a pat on the back because you have been reporting on the reopening o f your hospital. is that the langone center of nyu? >> yes. t